14||0|2629|0|yes 0|0|0|||||Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Shaithisx||16:10:29|07/20/2007|I was rereading SOS5%3A Out of the Blue and something struck me. %28Ouch%29%0D%0A%0D%0A %5Bi%5DThe book he%27d selected was an Asgardian one%2C provided by%0D%0ACorwin Ravenhair%27s uncle Balder%2C Asgard%27s ambassador to Cephiro. %5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ANow%2C I know the fondness of the old Wedge Defenders to tweak the nose of those who take things and themselves too seriously and any chance for Frey to get his blood pressure to spike is amusing%2C so this is a very entertaining development.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut%2C if %5Bb%5DI%5B%2Fb%5D were living in the universe of Nerf where almost nothing could ever hurt or kill me%2C I wouldn%27t take up a role as Ambassador to the universe of Broken Glass and Sharp Edges%2C I might decline no matter how much it would annoy someone.%0D%0A%0D%0AIs this still all about getting under Frey%27s skin or is there a reason why Balder would take such a position%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AShaithisX %28the avoider of pain%29%0D%0A%0D%0A 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|O_M||16:58:12|07/20/2007|Well%2C he %5Bi%5Dis%5B%2Fi%5D a Viking. Actually being somewhere where even training combat was at least dangerous even if he doesn%27t go into open deadly combat would probably be a relief over being Superman in the other 9 worlds. 2|1|0|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Star Ranger4||19:34:17|07/20/2007|%3EIs this still all about getting under Frey%27s skin or is there a reason %0D%0A%3Ewhy Balder would take such a position%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AActually%2C I think this no longer applies%2C as Corwin swore the Balder oath. Ergo%2C once he became Cephiro%27s pillar%2C the whole of the 10th world was brought under the oath as well. 3|1|0|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|asuffield||15:20:36|07/21/2007|Balder%27s still a god. Almost nothing can seriously hurt or kill any of them. The only thing special about Balder is his relationship to the Ragnarok%2C he%27s no more fragile than the rest. 4|2|3|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|MoonEyes||15:43:29|07/21/2007|%3EBalder%27s still a god. Almost nothing can seriously hurt or kill any of %0D%0A%3Ethem. The only thing special about Balder is his relationship to the %0D%0A%3ERagnarok%2C he%27s no more fragile than the rest. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AActually%2C yes he IS more fragile...see%2C the norse gods were never immortal like the %27normal%27 type of god%2C and Balder even less so than the others%2C since he was MEANT to die...that%27s what brought on Ragnarok in the first place. And%2C as I remember the story%2C nothing and no-one on Cephiro had promised never to harm him. 5|1|0|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Barricade||13:58:06|09/16/2007|A good question would be%2C who%27s going to be the Ambassador from Planita and%2For the galaxy in general to Cephiro%3F And where do the three Knights fall into all this%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ABTW - did they decide where Ferio fit into all this%2C or did he get discarded entirely before even writing to be replaced by Chip%3F 6|2|5|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Star Ranger4||19:18:35|09/16/2007|%3EBTW - did they decide where Ferio fit into all this%2C or did he get %0D%0A%3Ediscarded entirely before even writing to be replaced by Chip%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ANot Chip%2C Saionji. 7|2|5|||1||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Peter Eng||17:13:34|09/17/2007|%3EA good question would be%2C who%27s going to be the Ambassador from %0D%0A%3EPlanita and%2For the galaxy in general to Cephiro%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0ANobody. As far as the general public knows%2C Cephiro ranks up there with Wonderland%2C Oz%2C and Narnia on the list of places that should be sent an ambassador.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0AI%27m only a Charter Member because of the DCForum upgrade%2C and because there%27s no rank below %22Clueless F%21wit.%22 8|3|7|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Barricade||15:20:04|09/20/2007|Considering Cybertron%2C Sith%2C Jedi%2C Plantia itself %28a freaking Dyson Sphere%21 with seemingly only one city ever mentioned which is highly odd%29%2C Demons%2C and lots of magic users....%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m amazed that if you mentioned it that people might not just believe in it. Considering Kozue has traveled all over the place by now%2C nevermind Utena%2C there has to be a few hundred ppl that know about Cephiro just from her alone%2C and then they talk...%0D%0A%0D%0ABtw%2C could anyone point me out to which story it was that had Len %26 Achika%27s bokken disaster%3F 9|4|8|||1||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|pjmoyer||19:20:37|09/20/2007|%3EConsidering Cybertron%2C %0D%0A%0D%0AA planet of living machines that mostly keeps to themselves%2C and when they go out into the greater universe%2C they%27re just as likely to be mistaken for rush hour traffic....%0D%0A%0D%0A%3ESith%2C Jedi%2C%0D%0A%0D%0ATwo parts of an ancient order that have been hanging on by their fingernails from total extinction for millenia%2C and even %5Bi%5Dnow%5B%2Fi%5D can%27t count their numbers in the hundreds %28and only if they%27re %5Bi%5Dconsiderate%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and decide to count the variant users%2C like the Jyurian Jei masters%2C K-Ryuu%2C etc.%29...%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EPlantia itself %28a freaking Dyson %0D%0A%3ESphere%21 with seemingly only one city ever mentioned which is highly %0D%0A%3Eodd%29%2C %0D%0A%0D%0AFor a place that%27s only been settled for 35 years %282375-2410%29%2C New Avalon is actually quite reasonably sized for a still-growing city. Sure%2C it doesn%27t have much in the way of suburbs or far-off satellite cities%2C aside from the production facilities for the WDF shipyards and the WDF%27s central command%2C but come back in a few centuries%2C and I bet you there%27ll be more cities than just New Avalon there. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E Demons%2C and lots of magic users...%0D%0A%0D%0ANot as many as you suppose%2C publicly known and announcing their presence to all and sundry.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI%27m amazed that if you mentioned it that people might not just believe %0D%0A%3Ein it. Considering Kozue has traveled all over the place by now%2C %0D%0A%3Enevermind Utena%2C there has to be a few hundred ppl that know about %0D%0A%3ECephiro just from her alone%2C and then they talk... %0D%0A%0D%0AYou are correct in stating that both Kozue and Utena are well-travelled and slowly becoming higher-profile in the Grand Scheme Of Things. But consider in return -- the populated known galaxy at the turn of the 25th century is pretty darn large. As in%2C ressurecting Carl Sagan to state %5Bi%5D%22billions and billions%22%5B%2Fi%5D in relationship to the populace would be severely %5Bi%5Dunderestimating%5B%2Fi%5D their numbers. %0D%0A%0D%0AThe majority of the general galactic populace would react to the news of%2C say%2C Gryphon%27s jobs in the %22present day%22 much like modern Americans react to the news of the doings of the Queen of England or her Prime Minister -- potentially interesting%2C but out of their social and political sphere. And the news of some of the more believable doings of Utena or Kozue -- weird and strange%2C but those Zeta Cygnans will try %5Bi%5Danything%5B%2Fi%5D%2C y%27know%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AIn essance%3A if you consider the whole of the populated galaxy as a bucket of water%2C and the total cast and crew of the entire UF storyline as food coloring %5Bi%5Dadded%5B%2Fi%5D to that bucket of water via an eyedropper -- yes%2C the molecules of food coloring are there%2C and they interact with the molecules of H20%2C sometimes quite often and in noticeble concentrations%2C but it gets diluted elsewhere very very quickly.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EBtw%2C could anyone point me out to which story it was that had Len %26 %0D%0A%3EAchika%27s bokken disaster%3F %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.eyrie-productions.com%2FUF%2FFI%2FSOS%2Fper-ardua.txt %7C Symphony of the Sword %3A Third Symphony %3A Second Movement - Per Ardua%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AHope this helps%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D2 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_ser_philip_saber.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%0D%0A%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000dd%22%5DPhilip J. Moyer%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DContributing Writer%2C Editor and Artist %28and Moderator%29 -- Eyrie Productions%2C Unlimited%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DCEO of MTS%2C High Poobah Of Artwork%2C and High Priest Of the Church Of Aerianne -- Magnetic Terrapin Studios%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230044aa%22 size%3D-1%5D%5Bi%5D%22And we%27re talking very %5Bb%5Dsmall%5B%2Fb%5D drops in the bucket%2C here...%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_aeri_coat_sword.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 10|5|9|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Barricade||16:58:26|09/22/2007|True%2C but I meant she%27s been talking to people that are rather up there on the ladder of political power. She knows Gryphon%2C Rose%2C One of the T%27skrang Great Houses%2C Admiralty of the Colonies%2C Max%2C etc... Sooner or later someone at that level will bring it up with another person at the level. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m not saying that the general public will find it interesting beyond something like %22Oh wow%2C thats different.%22 and then fade out 15min later. Its the ones in power that are the ones I%27m more interested in%2C in how they%27re reacting.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh and thanks for pointing out the story. I%27ve been looking for that one for days. 11|6|10|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|drakensis||01:54:00|09/23/2007|Presumably%2C out the people who know Utena comes from Cephiro%2C most assume that Cephiro is %28or was%29 some remote colony world on the outer rim. And if anyone was trying to find her homeworld for some reason%2C then either they could ask her or they aren%27t anyone she minds having waste their time trawling around the Outer Rim fruitlessly. 12|7|11|||1||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|BobSchroeck||08:38:06|09/23/2007|%3EPresumably%2C out the people who know Utena comes from Cephiro%2C most %0D%0A%3Eassume that Cephiro is %28or was%29 some remote colony world on the outer %0D%0A%3Erim. %0D%0A%0D%0AThat was%2C in fact%2C the story that was being used early on in the Symphonies.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EAnd if anyone was trying to find her homeworld for some reason%2C %0D%0A%0D%0ALike%2C say%2C Liza Shustal%2C before she first showed up at DSM%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AThe President is on the line%0D%0AAs ninety-nine crab rangoons go by... 14|8|12|||||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|drakensis||02:52:44|09/25/2007|%3E%3EPresumably%2C out the people who know Utena comes from Cephiro%2C most %0D%0A%3E%3Eassume that Cephiro is %28or was%29 some remote colony world on the outer %0D%0A%3E%3Erim. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThat was%2C in fact%2C the story that was being used early on in the %0D%0A%3ESymphonies. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EAnd if anyone was trying to find her homeworld for some reason%2C %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ELike%2C say%2C Liza Shustal%2C before she first showed up at DSM%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AWhy would I come up with original explanations when there are already explanations in SoS%3F 13|4|8|||1||RE%3A Out of the Blue%3A Ambassador to Cephiro%3F|Peter Eng||13:02:40|09/24/2007|%3E%0D%0A%3EI%27m amazed that if you mentioned it that people might not just believe %0D%0A%3Ein it.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%22I%27m from Cephiro%2C the Tenth world. No%2C it%27s not an alternate universe%2C and I didn%27t arrive through a dimensional crossrip. It%27s between Svartalfheim and...look%2C I%27m serious%21%22%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s what it might sound like if somebody tried to explain Cephiro.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E Considering Kozue has traveled all over the place by now%2C %0D%0A%3Enevermind Utena%2C there has to be a few hundred ppl that know about %0D%0A%3ECephiro just from her alone%2C and then they talk... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%5Bi%5DInterlude on Titan%5B%2Fi%5D%3A%0D%0A %22You%27re one in a million%2C Kozue%2C%22 %28Corwin%29 said.%0D%0A %22More than that%2C I hope%2C%22 she replied with a little smirk.%0D%0A%22I%27d hate to think there were fourteen of me in Avalon County alone....%22%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s the kind of numbers you%27re comparing %22hundreds of people%22 against. And the people from Cephiro probably don%27t talk about it very much. I%27d bet that most people think that Utena and Kozue come from New Avalon%2C others think they%27re from some obscure Outer Rim colony that was destroyed by raiders%2C and only a tiny group have even heard of Cephiro.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng