3||0|2193|0| 0|0|0|||1||Will There Be a Symphony No. 6%3F|Gryphon||22:52:25|09/12/2013|Merc said%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EHave you guys given any %0D%0A%3E%3Ethought to possibly re-naming Symphony 5%3F %28...%29%0D%0A%3E%3Eit really seems like at this point%2C %0D%0A%3E%3Estructurally speaking%2C you might want to re-brand it%2C end it either %0D%0A%3E%3Ewith Taken by Storm or soon after %28what%27s already there functions at %0D%0A%3E%3Eleast as well as a cohesive whole as Symphonies 3 and 4 do%29 and then %0D%0A%3E%3Epush the Black Rose stuff into a hypothetical Symphony 6. %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd then Phil said%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EWell%2C on my part%2C the whole of %22Taken By Storm%22 was going to be one %0D%0A%3Emovement%2C period -- or one movement broken up into 3 parts. Which %0D%0A%3Emeans we%27d have 3 more to go%2C if we kept with the 7 movement thing... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E... make of that what you will. %0D%0A%0D%0AI actually toyed with the idea of labeling it this way - so that the entirety of %5Bi%5DTaken by Storm%5B%2Fi%5D was the Fifth Movement%2C broken into three parts - but was persuaded not to do so in order to maintain consistency with %5Bi%5DKnights of the Tenth World%5B%2Fi%5D. %28Conversely%2C if I went and relabeled %5Bi%5DKnights%5B%2Fi%5D so that it was all Symphony No. 2%27s Fourth Movement%2C that Symphony would only be five movements long%3B but then again%2C if everything in Symphony No. 1 was called a movement that really should be%2C it%27d be eight or nine%2C so... it%27s not an exact science%2C is all I%27m saying.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway%2C Symphonies 1%2C 2%2C and 4 all having seven movements was actually a coincidence%2C which is why I%27m not too broken up about the idea that Symphony No. 5 may extend to nine or ten. On the other hand%2C if we did break No. 5 off after %5Bi%5DTaken by Storm%5B%2Fi%5D is finished%2C based on the amount of plotline that%27s left in the notes after that point%2C we%27d be looking at a theoretical No. 6 that was all of three movements long. Then again%2C there was a time not very long ago when I rather comically thought that everything planned %28and not-planned%3B some of my favorite scenes are not in the original notes but appeared organically during construction%29 for TbS would fit into one. So who really knows%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AI think mainly I resist the idea of declaring Symphony 5 over because I%27m concerned that what%27s planned for the rest of it%2C and which would then become the kernel of Symphony 6%2C would expand to fill the suddenly enlarged headspace. Given that it%27s taken me %5Bi%5Deight years%5B%2Fi%5D to get as far into %5Bi%5D5%5B%2Fi%5D as we have so far reached%2C that scares me a bit on several levels. As it is%2C S5 has been holding up stuff I wanted to do further along the FI curve %28looking at you%2C %5Bi%5DInfamy%5B%2Fi%5D revision%29 for ages. Permitting what%27s left in the planning notes to move into its own house might push that so far we%27ll never see it again.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat am I getting at with this%3F Nothing concrete%3B I%27m just sort of thinking out loud. I had a flu vaccination today%2C and it%27s affecting me very similarly to my weekly interferon dose. One of the interesting side effects of a high-speed immune response is that it becomes very easy to %5Bi%5Dstart%5B%2Fi%5D thoughts but commensurately harder to %5Bi%5Dfinish%5B%2Fi%5D them. Maybe tomorrow I%27ll wake up%2C reread this%2C and think%2C %5Bi%5DYou know what%2C that%27s actually a great idea. We could rename No. 5 something like %5Bu%5DSurely Some Revelation Is at Hand%5B%2Fu%5D and really go to town with it.%5B%2Fi%5D One can never tell.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Will There Be a Symphony No. 6%3F|BeardedFerret||06:18:54|09/13/2013|I think S5 feels like it%27s heading towards the climax of the series%2C which presumably involves someone shoving a sword through Akio%27s throat. Now that Annabelle%27s been born%2C I think you could absolutely throw in a couple of pieces leading up to a final movement in which evil is vanquished%2C etc etc. %0D%0A%0D%0AThen again%2C I have very little idea as to what your actual plans are%2C so this is probably useless advice. 2|1|0|||1||RE%3A Will There Be a Symphony No. 6%3F|Mercutio||19:33:37|09/17/2013|... I somehow thought I%27d replied to this days ago%2C but that might have been a dream.%0D%0A%0D%0AThanks for taking the time. I love process notes to death.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway%2C this makes total sense. I%27d like to note that my suggestion you consider re-branding Symphony 5 has less to do with it becoming longer than comparable Symphonies %28I mentioned length mainly to note that it%27s already a decent size as opposed to being %27short%27%29 but that the tale seems to have changed in the telling%3B so far the Order of the Black Rose have been decidedly bit players %28and had an abortive plotline where time was taken to establish a bunch of their members who turned out to not be relevant at all%29 whereas the theme of the Symphony has mostly revolved around Corwin and Utena finally nailing down their relationship and the travails surrounding that%2C their wedding%2C and their honeymoon.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhich is great%2C but doesn%27t really go with the title. I suppose it%27s possible this one will balloon all the way out to%2C like%2C fourteen movement-equivalents or something%2C so that you have a front half light%2Fback half dark symmetry metaphor thing going on with the plot structure%2C but as it is now even if the Black Rose stuffs blasts into high gear for the downslope it will probably end up looking weirdly backloaded.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bsmall%5D%22The Council reiterated that there is no way that they are huge Floyd fans%2C privately using public funds on a laser-powered s%E9ance to talk hard rock and classic jams with the ghost of original frontman Syd Barrett.%22%5B%2Fsmall%5D 3|2|2|||||RE%3A Will There Be a Symphony No. 6%3F|mdg1||20:18:08|09/17/2013|Sorry about the digression%2C but...%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%5Bsmall%5D%22The Council reiterated that there is no way that they are huge %0D%0A%3EFloyd fans%2C privately using public funds on a laser-powered s%E9ance to %0D%0A%3Etalk hard rock and classic jams with the ghost of original frontman %0D%0A%3ESyd Barrett.%22%5B%2Fsmall%5D %0D%0A%0D%0ABy the sheerest coincidence%2C I only just found out about %5Bi%5DWelcome to Night Vale%5B%2Fi%5D today.%0D%0A%0D%0A