49||0|4499|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Gryphon||23:38:19|01/05/2007|%5Bb%5D%5Bbig%5DJeraddo Chapter%5B%2Fbig%5D%0D%0A%28Deedlit Satori Mandeville Memorial Institute%29%0D%0A%0D%0ABoba Fett%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D President%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2410 %28senior%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Human %28Mandalorian%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Concord Dawn%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 17%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Military fighting knife%2C paired%0D%0A%0D%0AA tough%2C tenacious fighter with an extensive arsenal of dirty tricks%2C Boba has been trained in the commando fighting techniques of the ancient Mandalorians since he was old enough to stand. In addition to his skill at hand-to-hand combat%2C he is an expert marksman and an accomplished demolitionist with considerable knowledge of military fieldcraft. He owns a full set of Mandalorian Death Watch armor%2C equipped with communications systems%2C sensors%2C hidden weapons%2C and a rocket pack providing limited flight capability. A serious-minded young man%2C Boba is very conscious of his responsibilities.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSumire %28Mimi%29 Shinguuji%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Acting Vice-President%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2410 %28senior%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Human%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Ishiyama%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 17%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Katana %28Battle Sword %5Bi%5DGodfang%5B%2Fi%5D%29%0D%0A%0D%0AMimi is the daughter of Sakura Shinguuji%2C the hereditary Protector of the Empire of Morita%2C and her husband Ichiro%2C a naval officer and an accomplished swordsman in his own right. She is the confirmed heir of the Shinguuji family and highly trained in the family%27s ancient %5Bi%5Dkenjutsu%5B%2Fi%5D style%2C the Shinguuji %5Bi%5DHokushin Itt%26%23333%3Bryuu%5B%2Fi%5D. Cheerful and upbeat%2C Mimi hides a fierce warrior%27s heart within her polite%2C cultured exterior. Her weapon%2C %5Bi%5DGodfang%5B%2Fi%5D%2C was forged by Corwin Ravenhair from adamantine%2C a nearly indestructible Asgardian metal.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DB%27Elanna O%27Brien%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Vice-President%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D %3F%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Half human%2C half Klingon%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Qo%27noS%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 16%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D %5Bi%5DBat%27leth%5B%2Fi%5D %28Klingon honor sword%29%0D%0A%0D%0AB%27Elanna is the adopted daughter of Babylon 6 chief engineer Miles O%27Brien - and the niece by blood of Klayvor %5Bi%5Dvestai%5B%2Fi%5D-Klavaar%2C the self-proclaimed Klingon Emperor. Tough-minded and stubborn%2C she once turned her back on the customs of her mother%27s people%2C but encounters with the likes of Professor Kraalgh%2C Krontep%2C and Klaang convinced her that the true Klingon way was worth investigating. She learned the use of the %5Bi%5Dbat%27leth%5B%2Fi%5D and the %5Bi%5Ddaqtagh%5B%2Fi%5D%2C the Klingon dueling dagger%2C from Krontep and Kraalgh. B%27Elanna took a leave of absence from DSM in order to join the Klingon forces loyal to Chancellor Krojaar and fight in the Klingon Civil War. She is being trained as a battle engineer in the fleet of General Zargh Thalekh.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DStephen G. Dukat%2C Esq.%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Treasurer%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2412 %28sophomore%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Cardassian%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Bajor%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 14%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D %5Bi%5DTajir%5B%2Fi%5D %28Cardassian dueling blade%29%2C paired%0D%0A%0D%0ABorn on Bajor during the Cardassian domination of that world in the chaotic years following the War of Corporate Occupation%2C Stephen Dukat is the son of the planet%27s last Cardassian military governor%2C the late %5Bi%5DGul%5B%2Fi%5D Skrain Dukat. Like his father %28whose memory is held in disgrace in the Cardassian Union%29%2C Stephen grew to love Bajor and consider it his home. Though he was taken back to Cardassia Prime by his mother when she abandoned Bajor and her husband at the end of the occupation%2C he ran away as soon as he was able and returned to Bajor. Sardonic and a bit cynical but good-hearted%2C young Dukat has a measure of his father%27s powerful charisma. His time in Cardassian schools gifted him with his race%27s famed intellectual discipline and a proficiency with the %5Bi%5Dtajir%5B%2Fi%5D%2C a traditional Cardassian dueling sword.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSakura Byakuro%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Secretary%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2411 %28junior%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Human%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Tomodachi%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 16%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D %5Bi%5DNinja-to%5B%2Fi%5D %28%5Bi%5DKurokage%5B%2Fi%5D%29%0D%0A%0D%0ASlim%2C redheaded Sakura is the heir to the Byakuro Number One Shadow Society%2C one of Tomodachi%27s many ninja clans. Though she has received intensive training in the arts of silence%2C evasion%2C deception%2C and even assassination for all of her young life%2C she remains a friendly and cheerful young woman with a positive outlook. Her clan is one of Tomodachi%27s most honorable%2C having sworn generations ago to sell their swords only for purposes the clan elders consider righteous and true. Her time as a Duelist is expected to mold her into a more widely experienced leader with well-rounded skills. She is adept not only in stealth and combat%2C but also battlefield medicine. Her silent blade %5Bi%5DKurokage%5B%2Fi%5D %28%22Black Shadow%22%29 is 700 years old%3B Sakura is its 44th wielder.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DNita Daran%0D%0AClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2413 %28freshman%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Bajoran%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Bajor%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 13%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Tactical baton%2C paired%0D%0A%0D%0AOrphaned by the Cardassian occupiers of Bajor%2C Daran grew up on her own in the tough part of Bajor%27s capital city before her academic potential was discovered by a juvenile corrections officer. An experienced street fighter%2C she is tough%2C self-reliant%2C and cynical. She believes that the Cardassian occupiers had a valid philosophy%3A that only through strength can a person%2C or a culture%2C avoid exploitation. Her fighting style is the most ruthless and brutal of all the current Jeraddo Duelists%27%2C outstripping even Boba Fett%27s Mandalorian techniques in its directness and potential for mayhem. She always carries a pair of collapsible tactical batons%2C deceptively vicious weapons in the hands of an expert%2C and will not hesitate to use them painfully on anyone who she perceives as a threat. She has an odd fascination with Dukat%2C probably because of his Cardassian heritage.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DLindsay Willows%0D%0AClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2412 %28sophomore%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Human%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D New Avalon%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 15%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Rapier%0D%0A%0D%0ABlonde and bubbly Lindsay is the most inquisitive of the current Jeraddo Duelists - a legacy from her mother%2C IPO crime scene investigator Catherine Willows. She studied fencing specifically so that she could join the Duelists%27 Society when she arrived at DSM%2C reasoning that that would be where the action is. Though not the most martially skilled resident of the Castle%2C she%27s dogged and relentless%2C refusing to give up until she%27s fairly beaten. Her instinct for investigation sometimes gets her into trouble%2C but her capacity for quick thinking gets her out again more often than not.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DT%27Par%0D%0AClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2413 %28freshman%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Vulcan%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Vulcan%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 14%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D %5Bi%5DLirpa%5B%2Fi%5D %28Vulcan glaive%29%0D%0A%0D%0AA faithful follower of the Way of Surak%2C T%27Par is cool%2C competent%2C and strives at all times to be utterly dispassionate. Her logical viewpoint irritates some of her more passionate fellows%2C who often wonder why a Vulcan would choose to indulge in a pastime like dueling in the first place. She claims to see combat as a mental exercise%2C and that she seeks to understand the psyches of her non-Vulcan colleagues through what they reveal of themselves in battle. Whatever her true motivations%2C she is a loyal Society member and her analytical mind combined with her Vulcan strength make her a force to be reckoned with in the dueling room. In addition to dueling%2C T%27Par enjoys%2C insofar as her training permits enjoyment%2C games of mental skill%2C such as memory tricks%2C logic puzzles%2C and strategy games.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DTom Palmer%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D President emeritus%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass of%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2413 %28University Division freshman%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DSpecies%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Human%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeworld%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Orron III%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 18%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Quarterstaff%0D%0A%0D%0ARugged%2C rangy%2C and handsome%2C Tom likes to bill himself as a simple farmboy. The latter is true%2C but a bit of an understatement%2C since he comes from Orron III%2C the breadbasket of the Corporate Sector. The former is entirely false. His father is one of the great Renaissance men of his age%2C and like him%2C Tom knows a little bit about everything and a lot about several things. He goes bounty hunting with his best friend Boba Fett on school breaks and is the Jeraddo chapter%27s designated wine expert. Tom is a born diplomat who often mediates in disagreements between Duelists or between the Society and other organizations. Originally just a friend of the original DSM Duelists%2C he took up the study of staff fighting after the first generation graduated in 2406. 1|1|0|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|kairos||00:06:10|01/06/2007|%3EA faithful follower of the Way of Surak%2C T%27Par is cool%2C competent%2C and %0D%0A%3Estrives at all times to be utterly dispassionate.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt is a bit sad to see that the Way of Surak is still thought to involve denying passions%2C instead of mastering them. One worries that this will hurt a lot of Vulcans%2C if indeed it hasn%27t already. 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Gryphon||00:12:55|01/06/2007|%3E%3EA faithful follower of the Way of Surak%2C T%27Par is cool%2C competent%2C and %0D%0A%3E%3Estrives at all times to be utterly dispassionate.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIt is a bit sad to see that the Way of Surak is still thought to %0D%0A%3Einvolve denying passions%2C instead of mastering them.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Dispassionate%22 can mean %22devoid of passion or emotion%22%2C but it can also mean %5Bi%5Dunaffected by%5B%2Fi%5D same. Wiser students of Surak%27s teachings - such as our old friend Captain Spock - follow the second path. This is somewhat similar to defining courage as the capacity to overcome fear%2C rather than a simple inability to feel it.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 3|1|0|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|MOGSY||22:13:36|01/06/2007|So%2C where%27s the slot for the quarters%3F I%27m ready to play this fighting game %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ASuper Duellist Fighter II Turbo%21%0D%0A%0D%0A 5|2|3|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|PCHammer||23:35:13|01/07/2007|%3ESuper Duellist Fighter II Turbo%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AActually their games would be closer relatives of the Soul Calibur series. %22Duelist%27s Soul%22%2C perhaps. The second-wave game would be %22Duelist%27s Soul 2%3A Heritage of Destiny%22.%0D%0A%0D%0ABecause it%27s not Soul Calibur-ish until you throw some destiny crap in there. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A- Lord Ilmartello%21%0D%0A%5Bi%5DTranscending history%2C and the world -- a tale of souls and swords%2C eternally retold.%5B%2Fi%5D 7|3|5|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Lime2K||01:29:13|01/08/2007|%3EActually their games would be closer relatives of the Soul Calibur series. %22Duelist%27s Soul%22%2C perhaps. The %0D%0A%3Esecond-wave game would be %22Duelist%27s Soul 2%3A Heritage of Destiny%22.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27d be _all_ over that%21%0D%0A%0D%0A--------------%0D%0ALime2K%0D%0AThe One True Evil Overlord%0D%0A%5Bi%5DThe Legend Will Never Die...%5B%2Fi%5D 10|3|5|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|MOGSY||13:57:30|01/08/2007|%3E%3ESuper Duellist Fighter II Turbo%21 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EActually their games would be closer relatives of the Soul Calibur %0D%0A%3Eseries. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AAye%2C I can see that%2C but my first fighting game loyalty has always been to SF%2C and my first Eyrie loyalty has always been Warrior%27s Legacy truth be told %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%22People%2C ideas%2C gear%2C IN THAT ORDER%21%21%21%22 - John R. Boyd%2C Col%2C USAF %28ret%29 46|3|5|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|WengFook||04:50:47|01/15/2007|%3E%3ESuper Duellist Fighter II Turbo%21 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EActually their games would be closer relatives of the Soul Calibur %0D%0A%3Eseries. %22Duelist%27s Soul%22%2C perhaps. The second-wave game would be %0D%0A%3E%22Duelist%27s Soul 2%3A Heritage of Destiny%22. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EBecause it%27s not Soul Calibur-ish until you throw some destiny crap in %0D%0A%3Ethere. %3A%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0ATwo quotes from the soul calibur seem appropriate at this time%2C%0D%0A%22Welcome to the stage of history%21%22%0D%0A%0D%0Aand%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Akio Ohtori has been mortally wounded%2C but his soul still burns.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A_____________________________________________%0D%0ALightsabers. Why has it always got to be Lightsabers%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A 4|1|0|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Verbena||23:24:20|01/07/2007|Actually%2C the one Duelist I was most interested in%2C having played Lunar before ages ago and rather liking the whole Asrial thing %28even if I have no notion where Salusia comes from%29%2C was Jessica. Did she leave for good%2C if so why%2C if we%27re allowed to know yet%3F %3D%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead%2C so I say%2C %27nice try%27.%22 --Lezard 6|2|4|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Gryphon||00:49:01|01/08/2007|%3EActually%2C the one Duelist I was most interested in%2C having played %0D%0A%3ELunar before ages ago and rather liking the whole Asrial thing %28even %0D%0A%3Eif I have no notion where Salusia comes from%29%2C was Jessica. Did she %0D%0A%3Eleave for good%2C if so why%2C if we%27re allowed to know yet%3F %3D%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AShe graduated in 2407%2C so she%27s not a member of the Jeraddo chapter in 2410. Her listing will probably appear in part 3%2C which will list the members of the Order of the Rose who don%27t belong to one of the two main chapters %28the DSM Duelists%27 Society and Tenjou Academy%27s original Ancient and Illuminated Order of the Rose%2C also known as the Prince%27s Guards%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Salusia%2C by the way%2C originally comes from %5Bi%5DNinja High School%5B%2Fi%5D%2C though the UF version of their culture and their notable personages has evolved so much at this point that most of the remaining resemblance is probably coincidental%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 8|3|6|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Verbena||02:01:24|01/08/2007|%3E%3EActually%2C the one Duelist I was most interested in%2C having played %0D%0A%3E%3ELunar before ages ago and rather liking the whole Asrial thing %28even %0D%0A%3E%3Eif I have no notion where Salusia comes from%29%2C was Jessica. Did she %0D%0A%3E%3Eleave for good%2C if so why%2C if we%27re allowed to know yet%3F %3D%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EShe graduated in 2407%2C so she%27s not a member of the Jeraddo chapter in %0D%0A%3E2410. Her listing will probably appear in part 3%2C which will list the %0D%0A%3Emembers of the Order of the Rose who don%27t belong to one of the two %0D%0A%3Emain chapters %28the DSM Duelists%27 Society and Tenjou Academy%27s original %0D%0A%3EAncient and Illuminated Order of the Rose%2C also known as the Prince%27s %0D%0A%3EGuards%29. %0D%0A%0D%0AAha%2C thanks%21 Much appreciated. That whole section of the UF universe shown in %5Bi%5DRite of Passage%5B%2Fi%5D always interested me%2C and it really hadn%27t made much of a return to the stage at all until Jessica showed up. %28I end up being interested in the least meaningful side characters sometimes. Other examples include Amanda%27s cousin Tasmia %28what the heck is she doing now%2C with Raven taking over her job%3F%29 and especially Teleute and Diana.%29 And finding there%27s going to be multiple parts to this listing is much appreciated%2C also. %3DP%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28Salusia%2C by the way%2C originally comes from %5Bi%5DNinja High School%5B%2Fi%5D%2C %0D%0A%3Ethough the UF version of their culture and their notable personages %0D%0A%3Ehas evolved so much at this point that most of the remaining %0D%0A%3Eresemblance is probably coincidental%29. %0D%0A%0D%0AAaaaah. I knew for certain you%27d mentioned this once already but I wasn%27t able to find it%2C or maybe I just misspelled a search criterion. I didn%27t look hard%2C in any event%2C I admit. Now%2C at the very least%2C I can find visual references for some of these people.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead%2C so I say%2C %27nice try%27.%22 --Lezard 9|4|8|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Peter Eng||12:44:07|01/08/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-08-07 AT 12:44 PM (EST)]%3EOther examples include Amanda%27s cousin Tasmia %28what the %0D%0A%3Eheck is she doing now%2C with Raven taking over her job%3F%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AYou%27ve got your timestamps mixed up. Tasmia first appears in %5Bi%5DDay of Infamy%5B%2Fi%5D%2C which post-dates Raven%27s appearance. So Raven isn%27t replacing Tasmia%2C and Tasmia may not be replacing Raven%3B Tasmia appears to be dedicated bodyguard%2C not a witch or a student of Katsujinkenryuu.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0AI%27m only a Charter Member because of the DCForum upgrade%2C and because there%27s no rank below %22Clueless F%21wit.%22 11|5|9|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists|Gryphon||19:06:32|01/08/2007|%3ERaven isn%27t %0D%0A%3Ereplacing Tasmia%2C and Tasmia may not be replacing Raven%0D%0A%0D%0ATasmia doesn%27t replace Raven in %5Bi%5DA Day of Infamy%5B%2Fi%5D so much as stand in for her%3B Raven%27s... out of town that week.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bsmall%5Dway%2C %5Bi%5Dway%5B%2Fi%5D out of town%5B%2Fsmall%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 12|1|0|||1||S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||15:29:42|01/09/2007|%5Bb%5D%5Bbig%5DCephiro Chapter%5B%2Fbig%5D%0D%0A%28Tenjou Academy%29%0D%0A%5Bi%5DAncient and Illuminated Order of the Rose%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AKanae Ohtori%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Grand Duelist %28The End of the World%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D N%2FA%3B Deputy Chair%2C Tenjou Academy Board of Trustees%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Nihonia%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 20%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Rapier%0D%0A%0D%0AThe last generation of the Ohtori family%2C hereditary guardians of the Academy at the Center of the World%2C Kanae was bewitched and seduced by the Fallen Prince as a young girl. Through his contrived engagement to her%2C Akio took the Ohtori name%2C and in so doing gained access to the inner workings of the ancient Duelists%27 Code - thus beginning the dark age known today as the Lost Tournament. Freed from Akio%27s influence by his death in 2406%2C she took up the mantle of her family%27s ancient obligation in an effort to atone for the crimes against Cephiro she made possible. Wholly committed - some would say driven - she sees the Order of the Rose as a sacred honor entrusted to her by her liege prince. It is a trust for which she would die.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DMitsuru Tsuwabuki%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Seneschal%2C Student Council president%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2412 %28sophomore%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Nihonia%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 13%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Scimitar%0D%0A%0D%0ATsuwabuki was the youngest participant in the Lost Tournament%2C and the experience left its mark on him as all the others%2C bringing him maturity at an early age. Wise beyond his years%2C he leads the student Duelists by acclamation despite being the youngest of them. Apprentice to Master Mage Clef and an accomplished mage-knight in his own right%2C he knows better than any of his fellow students what evil the Fallen Prince is capable of. Forced to grow up before his time%2C he remains lighthearted%2C carrying his responsibilities with grace and aplomb. Never rattled%2C never riled%2C he sets a calm example for the others.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DKeiko Sonoda%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Student Council vice-president%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2410 %28senior%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHoemeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Nihonia%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 17%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Katana%0D%0A%0D%0AAcerbic Keiko used to be one of Nanami Kiryuu%27s minions%2C back when Nanami was the queen bee of the Ohtori Academy Junior High School Division%27s top clique%2C and an ardent pursuer of Nanami%27s elder brother Touga. Now older and wiser%2C she knows better than to judge friend or foe by appearances. Though she would probably never admit it outright%2C she considers looking after Tsuwabuki her charge in life%2C as a fellow veteran of both Black Rose bewitchment and Nanami%27s dysfunctional peer group. He doesn%27t need much watching%2C but Keiko%27s always ready to support him. Cool-headed and steady%2C she serves as a guide and counselor for the younger Duelists - though not without the occasional biting remark. She has a bit of a mean streak in battle%2C which may be because her dueling prowess originally came from Touga by way of the Black Rose enchantment.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DKardon Felz%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Student Council secretary%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2412 %28sophomore%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Gothria%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 14%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Hand-and-a-half sword%0D%0A%0D%0ATough%2C burly Kardon comes from Gothria%2C an industrial kingdom in the cold north of Cephiro that shares borders with Gaulia and Autozam. In older times%2C Gothria had a proud chivalric order%2C the Gothric Knights%2C whose members rode in support of the Pillar%27s Duelists. One of Kardon%27s ancestors was a Knight of Gothria%2C and Kard has inherited both his holy sword and his zeal to serve the Pillar%27s cause. At first glance%2C he%27s an unlikely candidate for knighthood%3A cheerful and irreverent%2C he seems to relish the excitement of battle more than the prospect of nobility... but there may be more to this young warrior than meets the eye. Kard is one of the few current Duelists with actual military %28as opposed to sporting%29 training%2C and also possesses armor and a shield%2C though their use is prohibited on the dueling floor.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DPeregrine Took%0D%0AOffice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Student Council treasurer%0D%0A%5Bb%5DClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2413 %28freshman%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Vanaheim%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 24%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Short sword%0D%0A%0D%0AOne of the %5Bi%5Dv%E6ttir%5B%2Fi%5D%2C or little folk %28they dislike being called %22halflings%22%29%2C of western Vanaheim%2C Peregrine comes from a long line of Peregrin%28e%29 Tooks%3A some male%2C some female %28the female ones end the name with a silent %22e%22%29%2C adventurers all. Clan Took is famous throughout the Upper Worlds for its penchant for adventure%2C a reputation established by the original Peregrin Took%27s prominent appearance in %5Bi%5DThe Red Book of Westmarch%5B%2Fi%5D. The latest to bear the name is no exception. She is Tenjou Academy%27s first non-Cephirean student%2C drawn to the recently-opened Tenth World by the prospect of exploring the unknown and being the first of her kind to go somewhere. Though quite small %283%272%22%2C 30 lb.%29 and usually cheerful%2C she can be very fierce%2C and her sword%2C a Mainz-type %5Bi%5Dgladius%5B%2Fi%5D made by the dwarven smith Dannen Ironbridge%2C is no joke.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DLantar ib%27Zalhir%0D%0AClass%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 2412 %28sophomore%29%0D%0A%5Bb%5DHomeland%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Shalhara%0D%0A%5Bb%5DAge%3A%5B%2Fb%5D 14%0D%0A%5Bb%5DWeapon of choice%3A%5B%2Fb%5D Halberd%0D%0A%0D%0ALantar is the first student from the far-flung desert kingdom of Shalhara ever to attend the school now known as Tenjou Academy. He is the son of a Shalharan merchant captain and has been handling the desert realm%27s famed flying ships since he was a small boy. Wiry and tough like almost all his people%2C Lantar finds the climate of Nihonia unpleasantly cool and damp%2C but he bears it gladly for the honor of representing his harsh but handsome homeland at the School at the Center of the World. He possesses a full measure of the famed Shalharan love for courtesy%2C hospitality%2C and humor. Unusual for a modern Duelist%2C he has experience of actual battle%2C having used his %5Bi%5Dshalkava%5B%2Fi%5D%2C or desert halberd%2C to defend his father%27s ships against the pirates of the Windam Archipelago. 13|2|12|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||17:12:49|01/09/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-07 AT 05:17 PM (EST)]Well%2C if that don%27t beat all%21 It seems you%27ve actually found at least one character in %5Bi%5DThe Lord of the Rings%5B%2Fi%5D that you like enough to incorporate into UF. Do I need to start listening for Gabriel %28or whomever he%27s an aspect of%29 to blow his trumpet%3F %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0A%28Seriously%2C though%2C I%27m glad - Pippin is one of my favorite LOTR characters. I assume somebody is going to call his latter-day namesake %22a fool of a Took%22 at some point%2C and how she%27ll reply is anyone%27s guess... %3A%29 %29%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe- 15|3|13|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||20:19:29|01/09/2007|%3EI assume somebody is going to call his latter-day %0D%0A%3Enamesake %22a fool of a Took%22 at some point%2C and how she%27ll reply is %0D%0A%3Eanyone%27s guess... %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIn the Shire%2C %22fool of a Took%22 is almost a compliment%2C depending on its delivery. If nothing else%2C it acknowledges that the recipient has a certain... %5Bi%5Dpanache%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 17|4|15|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||21:03:59|01/09/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-07 AT 09:05 PM (EST)]%3EIn the Shire%2C %22fool of a Took%22 is almost a compliment%2C depending on %0D%0A%3Eits delivery. If nothing else%2C it acknowledges that the recipient has %0D%0A%3Ea certain... %5Bi%5Dpanache%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AOf the sort that makes the person so described do insanely dangerous things just because it seemed like a good idea at the time%2C all too often. Yep%2C that describes Peregrine%27s renowned ancestor to a T. He would drop a stone down a well in a deserted mine complex full of enemies just to see if it would make a cool noise%2C and he%27d go staring into a crystal ball with Someone Extremely Dangerous on the other end%2C or stab a troll in the guts and endure being fallen upon as a result%2C but he%27d bounce back every time.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe-%0D%0A 14|2|12|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Meagen||17:17:32|01/09/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-09-07 AT 05:17 PM (EST)]%3E%5Bb%5DPeregrine Took%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m %2Aso%2A glad I wasn%27t drinking anything. That would have been one heck of a spit-take.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnother case of taking a character from a setting you don%27t like%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%28edited for closing tag%29 16|3|14|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||20:20:17|01/09/2007|%3EAnother case of taking a character from a setting you don%27t like%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ANot necessarily. More on this later.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 18|2|12|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|mdg1||21:27:48|01/09/2007|You wrote LOTR into UF canon.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat is either brilliant%2C insane%2C or both.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Of course%2C now I%27m wondering if there are any Jade Realm characters floating around Cephiro too. But my partisanship for GD is on record. %3A%29 %29 19|3|18|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||21:48:33|01/09/2007|%3EYou wrote LOTR into UF canon.%0D%0A%0D%0AWell... sort of. I mean%2C %5Bi%5DThe Lord of the Rings%5B%2Fi%5D exists as a book in the UF universe%2C and is customarily held to be a work of 20th-century Earth fiction%2C just as it is here in the real world %28by people not suffering from delusional fandom syndrome%2C anyway%29. It remains a popular and influential work of literature%2C albeit one blessed with a fandom that tends toward a rather alarming level of intensity and stridency%2C into the 25th century%2C and there is still that little hard core who fold their arms and grump privately that they enjoyed %5Bi%5DThe Hobbit%5B%2Fi%5D considerably more.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat I%27m doing in adapting it to UF is to take literally the sly metacontinuity that Tolkien himself sometimes invoked. Tolkien claimed%2C with a bit of a wink%2C that %5Bi%5DThe Hobbit%5B%2Fi%5D and %5Bi%5DThe Lord of the Rings%5B%2Fi%5D were both English translations from the ancient %5Bi%5DRed Book of Westmarch%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and that some details had probably been lost in translation.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe thing is%2C he presented the %5Bi%5DRed Book%5B%2Fi%5D as a history of events that occurred on a pre-historic Earth%2C in some ancient epoch that happened so long ago it isn%27t reflected in the arch%26aelig%3Bological record. That won%27t really wash%2C so my take on it for UF purposes is that it was a blind%2C intended as another sly wink to the knowing reader. The %5Bi%5DRed Book%5B%2Fi%5D isn%27t an account of events in ancient Midgard at all%2C and Professor Tolkien knew it%3A it%27s an account of events in ancient Vanaheim and Alfheim%2C from an era before the rise of the current %26AElig%3Bsir and Vanir - probably back during the lifetime of B%26uacute%3Bri%2C Odin%27s grandfather%2C the original king of the gods.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhy do I like this concept%3F Simple - it%27s %5Bi%5Dclassic early sci-fi%5B%2Fi%5D. Victorian SF writers%2C especially%2C loved to present their works as %22memoirs%22 of witnesses to %22actual events%22%2C as did H.P. Lovecraft. There%27s nothing in the text that actually contradicts this%2C and it gives our fictional take on Tolkien a pleasantly Lovecraftian sort of feel%3B the quiet English professor of ancient languages becomes a traveler of the planes and historian to the gods who presented his research as fiction because The World Wasn%27t Ready for the Truth%2C a classic literary device and a piece of own-tail-eating metacontinuity that appeals to me tremendously.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Presumably he got to Vanaheim and Alfheim to conduct his research through the good offices of his close friend and associate%2C the wizard C.S. Lewis.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 20|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|mdg1||22:24:19|01/09/2007|That works even better. Especially given Tolkien%27s fairly overt love for rural England. The idea that he sometimes took long walks in Alfheim %28probably the model for Rivendell%29 really appeals. Especially if he%27s still there. %3A%29%0D%0A 21|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|O_M||02:12:04|01/10/2007|%5Bi%5DWhat I%27m doing in adapting it to UF is to take literally the sly metacontinuity that Tolkien himself sometimes invoked. Tolkien claimed%2C with a bit of a wink%2C that The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were both English translations from the ancient Red Book of Westmarch%2C and that some details had probably been lost in translation.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AFor someone who%27s a self-avowed not-quite fan of the series%2C I%27m admittedly surprised you were aware of that little bit of side-trivia. I only learned about it%28despite being enough of a fan to slough through %5Bi%5DUnfinished Tales%5B%2Fi%5D in addition to that book that begins with S whose spelling I will not attempt at this time%29when it came up in one of the special features of the DVDs of the movie.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat said%2C I must salute you on possibly the most brilliant means of LotR crossover EVER.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%2C and I giggled like a fool at the reference to Mr. Lewis. %3A%29 22|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||03:03:28|01/10/2007|That%27s a good way of working the events of LotR %28and The Silmarillion%2C come to think of it%29 into the UF canon. Among other things%2C it provides an easy way to make the Valar stand-ins for the Aesir%2C or more accurately%2C their ancestors%2C as well as%2C should you choose to pursue that route%2C making the dragons of that far-off time the distant ancestors of today%27s Great Dragons of Alfheim%2C including Nall. %28Not to mention that it opens up the possibility for Gunnr to have some really cool forebears.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ASo%2C what caused you to mellow so significantly toward a book you used to really%2C really hate%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe- 23|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|kairos||04:16:42|01/10/2007|That%27s great%21 I%27d never have thought of it myself%2C but it works out well. %28That said%2C I am now wondering if you might ever do anything with Malacandra. %28Consider that to be rhetorical%2C if you like.%29%29 24|5|23|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||04:53:29|01/10/2007|%3EThat said%2C I am now wondering if you might ever do anything %0D%0A%3Ewith Malacandra.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn UF%2C %22Malacandra%22 is what the Martians call Mars%2C albeit the Martians themselves are the DC Comics version. %28Recent DC efforts have retconned the Martian name for Mars into a take on %22Malacandra%22 that has a bunch of extraneous apostrophes. Around here%2C we don%27t feel the need to bother with that action. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AI enjoyed %5Bi%5DOut of the Silent Planet%5B%2Fi%5D quite a bit%2C %5Bi%5DPerelandra%5B%2Fi%5D and %5Bi%5DThat Hideous Strength%5B%2Fi%5D rather less so - possibly because Lewis was becoming such a prominent Christian apologist by the time he wrote the latter two%2C especially %5Bi%5DThat Hideous Strength%5B%2Fi%5D%2C that it%27s hard to read them without feeling annoyingly preached-to.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 25|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|CdrMike||08:11:11|01/10/2007|%3EWhy do I like this concept%3F Simple - it%27s %5Bi%5Dclassic early %0D%0A%3Esci-fi%5B%2Fi%5D. Victorian SF writers%2C especially%2C loved to present their %0D%0A%3Eworks as %22memoirs%22 of witnesses to %22actual events%22%2C as did H.P. %0D%0A%3ELovecraft.%0D%0A%0D%0AI can only imagine what horrors envisioned by the good Mr. Lovecraft exist in the UF universe. Randolph Carter has appeared%2C along with mentions of his own adventures%2C but that%27s fairly tame compared to%2C say%2C Dr. Herbert West. 26|5|25|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Croaker||09:51:58|01/10/2007|%3E%3EWhy do I like this concept%3F Simple - it%27s %5Bi%5Dclassic early %0D%0A%3E%3Esci-fi%5B%2Fi%5D. Victorian SF writers%2C especially%2C loved to present their %0D%0A%3E%3Eworks as %22memoirs%22 of witnesses to %22actual events%22%2C as did H.P. %0D%0A%3E%3ELovecraft.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI can only imagine what horrors envisioned by the good Mr. Lovecraft %0D%0A%3Eexist in the UF universe. Randolph Carter has appeared%2C along with %0D%0A%3Ementions of his own adventures%2C but that%27s fairly tame compared to%2C %0D%0A%3Esay%2C Dr. Herbert West. %0D%0A%0D%0AWait%2C you mean the Vorlons %5Bi%5Daren%27t%5B%2Fi%5D the real source of the Lloigor stories%3F 27|6|26|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|mdg1||16:15:13|01/10/2007|I always thought they were evolved Daleks. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Years ago%2C I actually had a theory that the Daleks became the Invid%2C who eventually evolved into Vorlons. But then again%2C I%27m nuts%29 48|7|27|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Star Ranger4||02:43:54|01/22/2007|%3E But then again%2C I%27m nuts%29 %0D%0A%0D%0A...%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ABoy%2C is THAT an understatement%21 49|8|48|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|mdg1||16:09:51|01/22/2007|I could have made it work. %3AD%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Justifying the Zoanoid-based Destroid%2C OTOH...%29 28|4|19|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|MOGSY||17:34:23|01/10/2007|Very nice%21 Here%27s hoping some analogue of Merry makes it way into the story as well then %28for some reason I can picture a Brandybuck Brewery and a Sam Adams-like hobbit..%22always a good choice%22 it just seems to fit%2C must be the whole Brandywine%2C brnady period%2C etc...%29%0D%0A%0D%0AThe %22buddy-cop%22 interplay of the two younger hobbits%2C and Gimli and Legolas has a nice fit to it as well... 29|5|28|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||18:12:29|01/10/2007|%3EThe %22buddy-cop%22 interplay of the two younger hobbits%2C and Gimli and %0D%0A%3ELegolas has a nice fit to it as well... %0D%0A%0D%0ALegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 30|6|29|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||19:13:56|01/10/2007|%3E%3EThe %22buddy-cop%22 interplay of the two younger hobbits%2C and Gimli and %0D%0A%3E%3ELegolas has a nice fit to it as well... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ELegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AIs that good or bad%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe- 31|7|30|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||19:19:10|01/10/2007|%3E%3ELegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIs that good or bad%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ADepends on whether you run the convenience store in Lothl%26oacute%3Brien.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 39|8|31|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|BobSchroeck||18:46:21|01/11/2007|%3E%3E%3ELegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth. %0D%0A%3E%3EIs that good or bad%3F %0D%0A%3EDepends on whether you run the convenience store in Lothl%F3rien. %0D%0A%0D%0AApropos of that%2C I have vague memories of having read a heroic-fantasy-type story -- original Net.fiction%2C neither fanfic nor pro-published -- which featured as supporting characters a motormouthed High Elf named Jae who was paired with a quiet ogre by the name of Violent Bahb. %28I suppose I should go Google and see if I%27m remembering them correctly%2C and where I remember them from...%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AThe President is on the line%0D%0AAs ninety-nine crab rangoons go by... 40|9|39|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|E_M_Lurker||00:35:30|01/12/2007|That%27d be %5Blink%3Awww.wulfarchives.com%2F%7Cthe adventures of Wulf Freelance.%5D Sword-and-sorcery-and-a-whole-freaking-%5Bb%5Dlot%5B%2Fb%5D-of-sex. Furryphobics%2C steer clear. %5E.%5E%0D%0A%0D%0A--The Evil Midnight Lurker what Lurks at Midnight%0D%0A%22An object at rest--CANNOT BE STOPPED%21%21%21%22 43|10|40|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|BobSchroeck||22:21:15|01/12/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-12-07 AT 11:39 PM (EST) by Wedge (moderator)]%3EThat%27d be %5Blink%3Awww.wulfarchives.com%2F%7Cthe adventures of Wulf Freelance.%5D%0D%0A%3E Sword-and-sorcery-and-a-whole-freaking-%5Bb%5Dlot%5B%2Fb%5D-of-sex. %0D%0A%3E Furryphobics%2C steer clear. %5E.%5E %0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C right%2C it %5Bi%5Dwas%5B%2Fi%5D erotica%2C wasn%27t it. I had quite honestly forgotten that -- as I recall the stories are very well written and hilariously funny at times.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AThe President is on the line%0D%0AAs ninety-nine crab rangoons go by... 35|6|29|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|BZArcher||20:28:24|01/10/2007|%0D%0A%3ELegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AOW. Nose%21 Coffee%21 OW. %0D%0A%0D%0AWarn a guy before you do that%21 47|6|29|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|SpottedKitty||20:23:56|01/18/2007|%3ELegolas and Gimli are the Jay and Silent Bob of Middle-earth. %0D%0A%0D%0APlease%2C I%27m reading this at howdiditgetthatlate in the a.m. -- if I%27d laughed the way I wanted to%2C I%27d have woken everyone in the house and scared the neighbours%27 cats in the garden... either that or done myself a mischief. %3D%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0AUnable to save the day%3A File is read-only. 32|4|19|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||19:35:06|01/10/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-10-07 AT 07:53 PM (EST)]%3EWhat I%27m doing in adapting it to UF is to take literally the sly %0D%0A%3Emetacontinuity that Tolkien himself sometimes invoked. Tolkien %0D%0A%3Eclaimed%2C with a bit of a wink%2C that %5Bi%5DThe Hobbit%5B%2Fi%5D and %5Bi%5DThe Lord %0D%0A%3Eof the Rings%5B%2Fi%5D were both English translations from the ancient %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5DRed Book of Westmarch%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and that some details had probably been %0D%0A%3Elost in translation. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThe thing is%2C he presented the %5Bi%5DRed Book%5B%2Fi%5D as a history of events %0D%0A%3Ethat occurred on a pre-historic Earth%2C in some ancient epoch that %0D%0A%3Ehappened so long ago it isn%27t reflected in the arch%E6ological %0D%0A%3Erecord. That won%27t really wash%2C so my take on it for UF purposes is %0D%0A%3Ethat it was a blind%2C intended as another sly wink to the knowing %0D%0A%3Ereader. The %5Bi%5DRed Book%5B%2Fi%5D isn%27t an account of events in ancient %0D%0A%3EMidgard at all%2C and Professor Tolkien knew it%3A it%27s an account of %0D%0A%3Eevents in ancient Vanaheim and Alfheim%2C from an era before the rise of %0D%0A%3Ethe current %C6sir and Vanir - probably back during the lifetime %0D%0A%3Eof B%FAri%2C Odin%27s grandfather%2C the original king of the gods. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%28...%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28Presumably he got to Vanaheim and Alfheim to conduct his research %0D%0A%3Ethrough the good offices of his close friend and associate%2C the wizard %0D%0A%3EC.S. Lewis.%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AOne thing that incorporating Middle-earth as part of the UFverse%27s backstory does%2C at least from my viewpoint%2C is to answer the question of how so many people in the Upper Worlds%2C from Asgard down to Svartalfheim%2C seem to all know the same language%2C i.e.%2C what we know as Old Norse%2C and not just as a magic user%27s tongue either. Consider this bit from %5Bi%5DKnights of the Tenth World%2C Part 3%5B%2Fi%5D%2C for example%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DIt wasn%27t actually black%2C but a very%2C very deep blue%2C like the%0D%0Ablue of a gun. The long%2C straight blade was double-edged like a%0D%0Abroadsword and perfectly balanced%2C seeming as right in Utena%27s hand as%0D%0Athe Heart of the Rose did. The basket hilt was worked into an%0D%0Aintricate rose vine%2C studded with wicked thorns%2C and it had a rose gem%0D%0Ahilt%2C just like the Heart%27s. Down the flat of its blade marched a%0D%0Arunic inscription in Anthy%27s mother%27s ancient script%2C and Anthy gasped%0D%0Aagain in astonishment. It was a -Valkyrie%27s- sword%21%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ANote that Anthy recognized the runic script - the same script as that used in Asgard - as the script used in Svartalfheim%2C and was able to read the inscription. It%27s possible that Svartalfheim uses the runic script to write a different language %28just as the script is used in LOTR to write several different languages%29%2C but...%0D%0A%0D%0AHere%27s what I %5Bi%5Dthink%5B%2Fi%5D is going on %28and this is strictly my own supposition%2C Gryphon and the rest of the editorial team may have something different in mind on this point%29%3A when UFverse Professor Tolkien is talking about the Common Tongue %28a%2Fk%2Fa what he calls Westron%2C or Adunaic%29%2C he%27s really referring to the common language shared by the Upper Worlds of Asgard%2C Vanaheim%2C Alfheim%2C Jotunheim and Svartalfheim. As I said%2C this is the language we know today as Old Norse. %28I%27m pretty sure the real-world Tolkien knew ON%2C so the UFverse Tolkien most likely would have too%2C and therefore would have been able to communicate with the people he met in Alfheim and Vanaheim right away.%29 Obviously%2C reproducing large swatches of ON in LOTR would have given the game away%2C so he simply represented the Common Tongue as modern English. I further conjecture that Quenya and Sindarin are either actual languages of ancient Alfheim%2FVanaheim%2C or else that Tolkien created fictional versions of those languages as part of the great blind.%0D%0A%0D%0AAgain%2C my own opinion%2C subject to voiding by editorial fiat. %28Incidentially%2C UF-Tolkien would likely be eligible for Valhalla by dint of his World War I service on the Western Front%2C so if anyone with access to Asgard cared to%2C they could probably look him up and ask him themselves. If%2C that is%2C they could find him at home...I like to think of him%2C if he ended up in Valhalla%2C still tramping the byways of Alfheim and Vanaheim%2C walking staff in hand%2C collecting the legends and tongues of those lands.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe- %0D%0A%0D%0AP.S. If 25th-century hobbits are as insular as they were at the time of the War of the Ring%2C I can just %5Bi%5Dhear%5B%2Fi%5D the grumblings of the crustier gaffers at the Green Dragon Inn in Bywater over their pipes and ale about the latest doings of Miss Took%3A %22...didn%27t ought to be going to school in no heathen foreign parts...%22 Second old hobbit%3A %22Aye%2C and not learning %5Bi%5Dmagic%5B%2Fi%5D%2C either.%22 Third old hobbit%3A %22You watch%2C lads%2C she%27ll come to a bad end%2C see if she doesn%27t. She%27ll end up piloting a... %28voice drops to portentous whisper%29 %5Bi%5Dstarship%5B%2Fi%5D.%22 %28All recoil in horror and quaff their ale to cure the shock and dismay%2C then call loudly for more.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A 33|5|32|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||20:06:00|01/10/2007|%3ENote that Anthy recognized the runic script - the same script as that %0D%0A%3Eused in Asgard - as the script used in Svartalfheim%2C and was able to %0D%0A%3Eread the inscription. It%27s possible that Svartalfheim uses the runic %0D%0A%3Escript to write a different language %28just as the script is used in %0D%0A%3ELOTR to write several different languages%29%2C but... %0D%0A%0D%0AMm. That%27s actually a bit of a blunder on my part - Svartalvish %28which is an evolution%2C or a corruption%2C depending on your point of view%2C of Old Alvish%2C the ancient tongue of the elves of Alfheim%29 uses the same script as %5Bi%5DAlvish%5B%2Fi%5D%2C not Old Norse %28which uses the runic alphabet originally invented by Alfheim%27s dwarvish nations%29 - much like the way the Black Speech of Mordor is written using the same alphabet as Quenya. What the narration should note is that it%27s written in one of the languages Anthy%27s mother taught her%2C not %22%28her%29 mother%27s ancient script%22%2C which implies that the inscription is in Alvish.%0D%0A%0D%0AHowever%2C your surmise about Old Norse being the %22common tongue%22 in the Upper Worlds is correct. Like many things that have been around since the dawn of Asgard%2FAlfheim%2FVanaheim%2C it has many names%3B %22Westron%22 is what the elves of Alfheim%2C who live in the eastern parts of that realm%2C call it%2C because it originally comes from Asgard%2C which lies to the west if you%27re in the elvish kingdoms.%0D%0A%0D%0ATolkien himself claimed that Old Norse was a translation of the language used by the Men of Dale%2C mentioned in %5Bi%5DThe Hobbit%5B%2Fi%5D%2C as a way of explaining why all the dwarves in that book have Norse names%2C but we may safely assume that that was just a further dodge%2C since we%27re making all this stuff up anyway. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI further conjecture that Quenya and %0D%0A%3ESindarin are either actual languages of ancient Alfheim%2FVanaheim%2C or %0D%0A%3Eelse that Tolkien created fictional versions of those languages as %0D%0A%3Epart of the great blind. %0D%0A%0D%0AEssentially%2C Quenya %3D Old Alvish and Sindarin %3D Modern Alvish %28also-also known as Elvish%2C and very similar to the language spoken on most of Hyeruul%2C such that Corwin%2C who is fluent in Elvish%2C can understand most of what Umi%27s saying when she speaks in her native language in %5Bi%5DKnights 2%5B%2Fi%5D%29.%0D%0A %0D%0A%3E%28Incidentially%2C UF-Tolkien would likely be eligible for Valhalla by %0D%0A%3Edint of his World War I service on the Western Front%2C so if anyone %0D%0A%3Ewith access to Asgard cared to%2C they could probably look him up and %0D%0A%3Eask him themselves.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C I%27m not at all convinced that he%27s actually %5Bi%5Ddead%5B%2Fi%5D. He was a great friend of the Vanir and the various other peoples of Vanaheim and Alfheim%2C and traveled widely in the celestial realms during his lifetime%3B it%27s entirely possible that on one of his later journeys%2C he simply never returned to Midgard.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EIf%2C that is%2C they could find him at home...I like %0D%0A%3Eto think of him%2C if he ended up in Valhalla%2C still tramping the byways %0D%0A%3Eof Alfheim and Vanaheim%2C walking staff in hand%2C collecting the legends %0D%0A%3Eand tongues of those lands.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AIn Alfheim%2C unsurprisingly%2C they call him %5Bi%5DMithrandir%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 34|6|33|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Offsides||20:22:40|01/10/2007|%3EIn Alfheim%2C unsurprisingly%2C they call him %5Bi%5DMithrandir%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AYou know%2C that is absolutely %5Bi%5Dbrilliant%5B%2Fi%5D%21 The only question I have is whether he%27s called that after the Alvish name of Gandalf%2C or whether he used his Asgardian name for the character%3F Nicely done%21%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0A%26%2391%3B...%26%2393%3B in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.%0D%0A -- David Ben Gurion%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cstdsig.h%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A 36|7|34|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||20:29:25|01/10/2007|%3E%3EIn Alfheim%2C unsurprisingly%2C they call him %5Bi%5DMithrandir%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3EYou know%2C that is absolutely %5Bi%5Dbrilliant%5B%2Fi%5D%21 The only question I %0D%0A%3Ehave is whether he%27s called that after the Alvish name of Gandalf%2C or %0D%0A%3Ewhether he used his Asgardian name for the character%3F Nicely done%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C it%27s a Modern Alvish word meaning %22grey traveler%22%2C so possibly both%2C or neither... it%27s hard to tell with elves sometimes. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 37|6|33|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||20:41:20|01/10/2007|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Jan-10-07 AT 08:46 PM (EST)]%3EHowever%2C your surmise about Old Norse being the %22common tongue%22 in the %0D%0A%3EUpper Worlds is correct. Like many things that have been around since %0D%0A%3Ethe dawn of Asgard%2FAlfheim%2FVanaheim%2C it has many names%3B %22Westron%22 is %0D%0A%3Ewhat the elves of Alfheim%2C who live in the eastern parts of that %0D%0A%3Erealm%2C call it%2C because it originally comes from Asgard%2C which lies to %0D%0A%3Ethe west if you%27re in the elvish kingdoms. %0D%0A%0D%0AThat clarifies another point%2C both as to the basic geography of the Upper Worlds and as to where the Professor got the idea for the relative placement of Middle-earth and the so-called %22Blessed Realm%22.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ETolkien himself claimed that Old Norse was a translation of the %0D%0A%3Elanguage used by the Men of Dale%2C mentioned in %5Bi%5DThe Hobbit%5B%2Fi%5D%2C as a %0D%0A%3Eway of explaining why all the dwarves in that book have Norse names%2C %0D%0A%3Ebut we may safely assume that that was just a further dodge%2C since %0D%0A%3Ewe%27re making all this stuff up anyway. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AI ought to have thought of that myself%2C especially since I had been thinking earlier today about the Norse names of the dwarves. %28No reason why they couldn%27t really have them%2C of course.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ASpeaking of elves and dwarves%2C here%27s this little bit from %5Bi%5DAsh Knight%5B%2Fi%5D%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DNoticing the look on Anne%27s face%2C Corwin grinned. %22This is%0D%0ADwarventown%2C%22 he confirmed. %22Mostly immigrants from the mountains of%0D%0AAlfheim - craftsmen%2C mainly. Some mountain elves%2C too%2C like Gunnr.%0D%0AThey%27re the only breed of elves who really -like- dwarves.%22%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AThis makes me wonder if Gunnr and her fellow mountain elves may be descendants of the elven people that Tolkien called the Noldor. According to the source material%2C the Noldor were the only elves who ever had a real friendship with dwarves%2C as in the quoted paragraph. The Noldor were also the elves most partial to things mechanical and artificial%2C so to speak%2C and to lives of action%3B virtually all of the elven heroes and heroines we see in Tolkien%27s work%2C except for Legolas%2C are of the Noldor. %28Cf. Gunnr%27s self-introduction to Juniper in %5Bi%5DOn The Road Again%5B%2Fi%5D%2C where she explains that she%27s not into being a %22fountain of obscure mystic wisdom%22.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EI further conjecture that Quenya and %0D%0A%3E%3ESindarin are either actual languages of ancient Alfheim%2FVanaheim%2C or %0D%0A%3E%3Eelse that Tolkien created fictional versions of those languages as %0D%0A%3E%3Epart of the great blind. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EEssentially%2C Quenya %3D Old Alvish and Sindarin %3D Modern Alvish %0D%0A%3E%28also-also known as Elvish%2C and very similar to the language spoken on %0D%0A%3Emost of Hyeruul%2C such that Corwin%2C who is fluent in Elvish%2C can %0D%0A%3Eunderstand most of what Umi%27s saying when she speaks in her native %0D%0A%3Elanguage in %5Bi%5DKnights 2%5B%2Fi%5D%29. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AWhich buttresses my %22fictional-version-language%22 theory%2C since Modern Alvish and Hyelian are%2C going by Umi%27s dialogue%2C completely unlike any human language to the extent that Tolkien may well have found it too difficult to transcribe accurately with just pen and paper%2C not%2C presumably%2C having more modern recording equipment to hand %28we know that most people can%27t even pronounce Hyelian names properly%2C after all%29. It also suggests the possibility that there may have been emigration from Alfheim to Hyeruul in the distant past.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28EDIT - On the other hand%2C I just saw your reply to Offsides about %22Mithrandir%22 being a Modern Alvish word%2C which means I may have to reconsider the above paragraph. Real-world Tolkien based Sindarin on Welsh%2C after all%2C which is a notoriously difficult language%2C and he didn%27t seem to have any problem with %5Bi%5Dthat%5B%2Fi%5D.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3E%28Incidentially%2C UF-Tolkien would likely be eligible for Valhalla by %0D%0A%3E%3Edint of his World War I service on the Western Front%2C so if anyone %0D%0A%3E%3Ewith access to Asgard cared to%2C they could probably look him up and %0D%0A%3E%3Eask him themselves.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EOh%2C I%27m not at all convinced that he%27s actually %5Bi%5Ddead%5B%2Fi%5D. He was a %0D%0A%3Egreat friend of the Vanir and the various other peoples of Vanaheim %0D%0A%3Eand Alfheim%2C and traveled widely in the celestial realms during his %0D%0A%3Elifetime%3B it%27s entirely possible that on one of his later journeys%2C he %0D%0A%3Esimply never returned to Midgard. %0D%0A%0D%0AI like this theory better than my original one. After the death of his wife and his retirement from Oxford%2C he wouldn%27t have had any real reason to remain in Midgard%2C it seems to me%2C and I imagine it wouldn%27t have been too difficult for his friends to get permission from Odin.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EIf%2C that is%2C they could find him at home...I like %0D%0A%3E%3Eto think of him%2C if he ended up in Valhalla%2C still tramping the byways %0D%0A%3E%3Eof Alfheim and Vanaheim%2C walking staff in hand%2C collecting the legends %0D%0A%3E%3Eand tongues of those lands.%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIn Alfheim%2C unsurprisingly%2C they call him %5Bi%5DMithrandir%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AVery fitting%21 38|7|37|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||20:50:43|01/10/2007|%3EIt also suggests the possibility that there may have been %0D%0A%3Eemigration from Alfheim to Hyeruul in the distant past. %0D%0A%0D%0AHyeruul was almost certainly colonized by people from Alfheim at some point in the distant past - the proto-Hyelians were probably one of the wandering elvish tribes of the First Era. The planet%27s civilization is very much older than any of its near neighbors%27%2C there%27s considerable arch%26aelig%3Bological evidence that the humanoid inhabitants didn%27t evolve there%2C and the architecture and language are strikingly similar. There are also true dragons on Hyeruul %28though not many nowadays%29%2C and their forebears can only have come from Alfheim.%0D%0A%0D%0AThis has all gone quite far afield of %22meeting the Duelists%22 at this point%2C but there%27s probably a place for continued exploration over in the UF General board.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 41|2|12|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jonathanlennox||10:45:27|01/12/2007|%3E%5Bb%5DKardon Felz%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%5Bb%5DLantar ib%27Zalhir%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ATo discuss someone %5Bi%5Dother%5B%2Fi%5D than Peregrine...%0D%0A%0D%0AAre these two original characters%2C or is my Google-Fu Not So Good%3F%0D%0A 42|3|41|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||12:11:38|01/12/2007|%3E%3E%5Bb%5DKardon Felz%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%5Bb%5DLantar ib%27Zalhir%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ETo discuss someone %5Bi%5Dother%5B%2Fi%5D than Peregrine... %0D%0A%0D%0AYes%2C yes they are. And I%27m sure they%27re glad that someone%27s finally noticed them. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 44|2|12|||||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|jadmire||23:17:09|01/12/2007|Greetings to all the other Cephiro Duelists that I might have unintentionally slighted in my enthusiasm over Ms. Took. %3A%29 I do have a general question%2C which goes back to events in S4%2C and applies to all the Duelists whether in Midgard or Cephiro. In %5Bi%5DFulcrum of Fate%5B%2Fi%5D episode 3%2C Yoda states that only Jedi who have passed the trials may take part in Rose Duels%2C which he identifies as being the primary custom of a newly-discovered sister order. First of all%2C I assume that the Jedi recognized the Order of the Rose as a sister order following the events of S4M7 %28correct number%3F%29 though they%2C or at least Master Windu%2C may have been aware of them since at least 2406. That%27s somewhat beside the main point%2C though%2C which is this%3B am I correct to assume that all the Duelists%2C no matter where they are%2C have at least some form of Force-sensitivity%3F Utena%2C the Grand Duelist%2C has a degree of Force-sensitivity powerful enough that she could become a padawan if she were interested %28which she%27s not%29. However%2C that goes back to what Yoda says%2C and very firmly so%3B only full-fledged Jedi may fight Rose Duels. It sounds as if the implication is that Duelists%2C at least several of them%2C have %28undeveloped%29 Force talents equivalent to that of fully-qualified Jedi Knights. How badly wrong am I on this%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-Joe- 45|3|44|||1||RE%3A S5%3A Meet the Duelists II|Gryphon||00:34:54|01/13/2007|%3EIt sounds as if the %0D%0A%3Eimplication is that Duelists%2C at least several of them%2C have %0D%0A%3E%28undeveloped%29 Force talents equivalent to that of fully-qualified Jedi %0D%0A%3EKnights.%0D%0A%0D%0ANot necessarily. Remember%2C Duelists don%27t do their thing with weapons that can dismember a human being without any effort whatsoever by the wielder - Jedi do. There%27s potential for accidental injury%2C possibly grievous accidental injury%2C in a rose duel with live steel%2C but the danger involved in a rose duel with lightsabers is an order of magnitude greater. It%27s just not something the Jedi Masters want padawans trying out for funsies.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s not to say that there are no Duelists with such potential%2C just that it%27s not a requirement. There%27s overlap between the two traditions%2C but more in the sense of philosophy and moral standing.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28In a way%2C Duelists might even say that Jedi cheat a bit%2C channeling the Force to accomplish what a really committed Rose Duelist can do%2C on a good day%2C without it.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A